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Would you like to see the next International Camporee out west?
I cannot imagine better than Oshkosh 26%  26%  [ 15 ]
I'd like someplace more primitive - real camping 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
I dunno, but I'm tired of the inland weather extremes 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Let's try Colorado again 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Anywhere else is just fine - we need a change 10%  10%  [ 6 ]
Somewhere in the Southeast 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
Somewhere in the Northeast 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Somewhere in the Northwest 14%  14%  [ 8 ]
Somewhere in the Southwest 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
Let's just go for the middle, to shorten travel 19%  19%  [ 11 ]
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Mr. Mike,

I love your vote for the next Camporee in Heaven.

Let me know when you're working on the ARK honor with NOAH, and I'll join you :D Guess for now we can only earn the Sanctuary and Bats honors (ya think Noah had in bats in the rafters?)

While I agree with other posts that modern facilities such as Walmart are not essential, I think we have learned a few things with each camporee, and we also have a demographic, even in Pathfinders which is much less prepared for TRADITIONAL camping.

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Noah had two bats for sure. :lol: :lol:

As for coming prepaired, our club comes with most everything we need except the perishables. You can't leave Louisiana for Wisconsin (or other location) with bread, buns, and salad stuff for the next two weeks (time includes side trip to Battle Creek for DTP and FOF). Even if it would not spoil, we don't have the room to carry all that bulk.

Off-site facilities are a must to provide for the large group.


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I agree with Mr. Mike. We traveled up to both DTP and FOF with a totally different strategy for each one. In DTP we tried bringing too much food, most of it spoiled. This time at FOF we smartened up a little - we had our perishable food dropped at FOF and picked it up from the red barn. All we had with us to eat on the way up (from Panama City to Oshkosh) were sandwiches and fruit. I admit we splurged a couple days up there and had meals at a church on Sabbath and went to Fazolis and a Chicago Pizzaria. It was GOOD food! The key tip here is, if you travel with 30 people, you have 2 trailors and don't carry a lot of perishables with you when going on a long distance trip. It might save you money on food at first, but the cost of pulling a loaded trailor and have food spoil on the way up isn't worth it.

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I looked at a BSA website for some details on where they have held their camporees in the past. In 1969 they held it at Farragut State Park in Idaho with 35,000 scouts in attendance, but they have held it in Virginia since 1981 (24 years!) Personally, I would love to see it in Idaho for the wonderful scenery and a new experience, but maybe we have found our home at Oshkosh much like the Boy Scouts appear to have found their home in Virginia. Also, since most Pathfinders will only attend one and at most two camporees in their experience, having a new place each time isn't essential. I'll be happy to go either way and yes I'd rather be in heaven to see the ultimate Master Guide if that is His will.

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The theme song has almost been a contest for the last several camporees.
There is a group at the Center for Youth Evangelism that judges the submitted songs.

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I believe the theme is selected by a committee selected by the Center for Youth Evangelism.

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While not exactly an International Camporee, the 2007 Youth Prayer Congress in Dallas, TX, should be interesting.
I would think that if most clubs are to afford it, they will be camping someplace. I don't think our club could raise enough money to stay in a hotel for a week.
Need to plan for this one and the Camporee in 2009.

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The date of Aug 11-15, 2009 is not good considering that most schools in the Southern US and other states will be starting around this time of the camporee. Because of the date of FOF a lot of pathfinders from this area of the country did not attend because of course school is more important.

The last two weeks of July or the first week of August I believe would include more pathfinders seeing that no school will be in session at this time in the US and international students will be on summer holidays.

How about camporee someplace in Alberta, Canada? Isn't that still in the NAD? :?:

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Was the date a problem with our Adventist Schools or just the public schools? And I don't really know who to take the date problem up with. I believe some of the Adventist schools on the east coast delayed their start last year, but that doesn't help with the kids in public school.

And then you will have the school districts that have gone to year round classes, i'm not sure there is a perfect time for such a large event.

I do know that alot of our public schools here will authorize absents for kids who go on mission trips and even excuse some of the school work.

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Hugh F - it actually was the summer camp schedule not the campmeeting schedules that are part of the scheduling conflict.

The summer camp staff from many if not all of the summer camps make up a huge part of the volunteer staff that help out at the camporee. So it's best if the camporee can be scheduled after the summer camp schedule is over. Also in many cases the conference Pathfinder leaders are also the summer camp directors and they really need to be at the camporee.

I know that the last two Camporees at Oshkosh couldn't be scheduled any earlier because of the fly in. There was only one week between the two events. And it takes at least that long to get everything set up.

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Thank you Karen for making things a little clearer for me. However, if they can find a location that will accommodate an earlier schedule and that is suitable for camporee then it will be worth it. It is easy to choose, the first important week of school or camping. School.

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The August date also gives problems with the staff as many of them are teachers.
We had to fly our director back home so she could be at school on the first day because she was the teacher (public school).

There are conflicts with summer camp, as well as school.
If the EAA campground is used, their fly in will always come first.


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FOF and the others were not truly international camporees. The were sponcored and planned by the North American Division, several of the other divisions have camporees as well, which I'm sure we could arrange to visit. But that is why the Camporee is located in the US of A. It might be interesting to see if we could find a ocation in Canada , but I'm sure I don't know the logistics of if that is even a possibility.

I too like Wilderness Camping, just not in extremely large groups. Wildernes camping takes more time at the campsite and less time to interact with other clubs.

Being from Wisconsin, it has been wonderful for us to have the camporee so close to home, but we are willing to drive. I must say though, that having the hangers at Oshkosh, has been a wonderful blessing for sponsor and honor booths.


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