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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:35 pm 
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WOW what a mouth full. It is found in the front of the Pathfinder “AY Cass Instructor’s Manual”. It is found in the Introduction area on the back of each page where a summary of all the different class requirements for each area is listed e.g. Personal Growth, Spiritual Discovery. It seems to be the “way to test” or demonstrate that a requirement has been meet. I am finding the ones listed under Nature Study – Spiritual lessons difficult to understand.
“From you own personal observation, discuss with the examiner the results of the required activity, drawing conclusions you consider appropriate. Be able to justify you conclusion satisfactorily.”
I am trying to write up some “helps” (currently for Friends) for our local club and seem to be stymied by how to “test”. Thanks

Arlene - Instructor
Holly Herons Michigan

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:16 pm 
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A more modern way of describing "way to test" is what educators call "assessment."

And there are several ways to assess:
-quiz (verbal or written)
-test (verbal or written)

but there are also a lot more fun ways:
-- compare / contrast

For example, a Pathfidner could compare / contrast Joseph's life with Jesus life as a child. . . . That's a great way to assess whether they UNDERSTAND the stories of these two men's lives.

Also, the Class Levels are NOT LIKE SCHOOL!!! They are an INTRODUCTION to a pletoria of skills and ideas. . . . Make it fun!

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Yeah, what he said.

Arlene, in over 20 years that quote never sunk in with me. Just skimmed over it I guess.

Mark is right on in my book, do not make AY school. For a modern school kid, especially if in private school, that is like having two jobs and they do not enjoy it much. And as a well trained modern educator he knows what he is talking about; the best ways to "prove learning" or "establish comprehension" are to demonstrate it in some fashion suitable to your personal learning and expressive styles. For some kids a discussion or compare/contrast is great, for others it is an artistic representation and others it will be acting out skits or roll playing. The possibilities are limitless and it is best to be open or flexible enough to accept different answer methods from different students. These are the best "tests". standard testing methods build little on comprehension and skill and seem more to be a method of statistical regurgitation and compiling. In fact, if not for over crowded classrooms and federal subsidies I suspect the methods most used for testing in the classroom today would have been abandoned fifteen years ago.

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Chris Fishell
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