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Pathfindersonline • View topic - New honors focusing on TLT's and Teen Pathifnders

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Networking ideas for Pathfinder Ministry
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Well, I would keep my club membership at the same place where I have my church membership. I can't help you with regards to the rivalry. The two churches I work with aren't in the same conference. As a leader, though, you are a bit above that stuff anyway. Consider approaching them in a way that shows them that you are trying to learn from them and want to help them so that they don't think you're just trying to get the inside scoop for your own club. If that doesn't work out, it will be worth the extra miles to work with the other club. You'll learn all kind of different things by working with another club that you may not have even considered by just being primarily exposed to your own, and that will help you to be a more rounded leader. I know it has helped me a lot.


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I guess that rivalry is kind of a friendly rivalry... not like we are trying to steal their ideas... more like a bunch of friends always trying to "convert" each other... That club would probably let you help, if you could give up 2 nights a week... and with college that could be rough. But I also think, that if you put your heart into it. You will be able to do it. So, go out and be a leader :P

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Just to reach back a little way and deal with the age specific concept.

All Honors are "age specific;" they are assigned one of three Skill Levels when they are adopted. Level 1 is grades 5&6, Level 2 is 7-10 and Level 3 is for 11th and up.

Yes, you can earn Honors below your age Skill Level, and yes, those capable may earn Honors above their level. The distinction is made in difficulty of the material to comprehend, requirements to accomplish, and time it should take. A potential Instructor should be looking at this system as a way to help determine who is able to accomplish the Honor properly and in the time frame expected for Honors. The "text book" time requirement is that without interfering with school and home responsibilities or the progression of AY Class Level study a participant can accomplish the Honor in less than three months.

For Skill Levels Two and Three there are many Honors (far fewr for Level 3), most are advanced in nature (you must earn the basic) or are focused on lengthy efforts such as Grasses and I believe that most of the Level 3 Honors are grouped into the Nature and Vocational catagories. The purpose here (sparked by a more ancient discussion) is to see where the needs of teens in Pathfinders - YOU - are in Honor interests and development.

The Master Guide and TLT are intended to be "Leadership Classes" for teens. First a TLT program is for all Teen Pathfinders who are willing to commit to its requirements [and qualify] (they do go beyond being a teen Pathfinder) and then the Master Guide which is mostly "classroom" training and is the Basic Training for AY Leaders in any catagory is age 16.

This does not mean that Leadership Honors are a bad idea, Junior Youth Leadership and Wilderness Leadership are two existing Honors for example that help develop skills not fully covered by TLT and MG. They are both beneficial in their focus. Now that months have gone by and you have said you want more leadership Honors what would you like them to focus on? Where do you feel you need more training than you are getting with TLT and MG?

Answering these question will help us all develop a better method of program for all AY.

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