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 Post subject: Metal Slides
PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:38 am 
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Don't know how many still have the metal slides for their scarfs. If you have a problem with the metal slide not staying up, try lining the slide with a piece of blue jean material. I glued a piece blue jean in mine several years ago and stopped having problems with the slide sliding.


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I thought I was the last one using the metal slide. The problem existed primarily with the Master Guide slide. The staff slide was narrower and luckily not prone to sliding. Do many Master Guides in Pathfinders still wear their scarf while in dress uniform? I embarassingly admit I do not unless I must.

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Our Conference MG's do wear the scarf as none of us use the army uniform jacket.

My slide is special to me. It was presented to me by a dear friend.

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Hold on to it, I am not giving mine up. I think I would wear, no I am sure I would wear my sashes and scarf if I did not wear a jacket. Here it is split, few new Master Guides (and some long timers in Pathfinders also) wear the jacket. Most of the conference Master Guides (coordinators...) and many of us with longevity do wear coats, it is not bad except at the fair. Scottsdale gets hot early so we all change as soon as the formal stuff gives way.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:25 pm 
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Since its been close to five years since AdventSource sold metal slides, I believe the number who wear them will continue to shrink.

Soon it will be just the "old" staff, then eventually just conference leadership I'm afraid.

I think the new cloth slide looks nice, and its much easier to replace.

I'll NEVER EVER give away my metal one though. In fact, I've tried to find an extra one just in case mine gets lost, but those are a hotter and more precious commodity than a COMPLETE set of Michigan hat pins! :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:16 am 
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The jackets have not been used here because of the temperature.
Most everyone has a short sleeve Pathfinder shirt.

I do have a spare slide just in case.

At this point, about half of our club still has metal slides. We had bought a number of them just before the switch to cloth.

Metal slides may become a good fund raiser if a manufacturer could be located.


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Someone mentioned that they have not been made for a while...When I was originally in pathfinders in 98, i had a metal slide, and I still have it, I use it as my spare. The cloth ones get lost easily.... I will never part with my metal one though...

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I use a metal slide as well. Haven't even gotten a cloth one. Anyway, I got mine in '98 as well when I started and I'm not giving it up. :P


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Alas, I lost my first metal slide at camp au sable somewhere outside the cabins :( But luckily I still have one left :) The cloth ones stay on better, but the metal ones have a nice look. which one to choose?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:05 am 
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Line the metal one with cloth as the first entry in this thread suggested and you have the advantage of both worlds. A metal slide that stays put.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:26 pm 
Something that some people did in my club when we had the metal slides was to tie a small knot in the scarf that the slide fit over. The knot kept the slide on and the slide hid the knot. I do agree though that the cloth slides are nicer. 8)


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I miss the metal slide too bring it back, just kidding i know its gone.

Here in Trinidad and Tobago we have made the slide out of pvc, painted it silver and put the logo on it, so we use plastic in stead of the cloth and the metal, its much cheaper too.

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Wow, how does the PVC slide look?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 3:03 am 
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It looks the same as the metal slide just that it is pvc. I prefer it to the cloth slide also, even though i know the cloth slide does not slip off as easily as the metal/pvc

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 9:42 pm 
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Its already been shared a few times, but the best way to keep a metal/PVC slide on is to attach cloth, esp FELT or WOOL on the inside of the slide.

Also, the image stamped on some of the "newer" slides is simply "stamped on" not engraved/embossed. A piece of CLEAR box-tape AROUND the slide keeps the image crisp and clear for a very long time. I've had this clear tape on my for 12 years and the design and tape both still look brand new.

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The tape is a great idea. Learn something everyday.

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 Post subject: Velcro
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I use a piece of sticky backed Velcro AKA hook and loop. I suggest using the softer loop part and discarding the hooks! :wink:

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Didn't you find the velcro too thick to leave room for the scarf to slide through?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:38 am 
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I only cover half of the inside surface.

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 Post subject: Metal Slides
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:51 am 
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I've heard that the Inter American Division still uses the metal slides for Pathfinders and Master Guides, although I haven't called them to check it out. For those who are desperate to replace their lost metal slides, this may be a good resource if it checks out! (Sorry, Lonny!)

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 Post subject: Crushed
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:13 pm 
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I'm Crushed! If anyone can verify this I will let my customers know. Thanks Ms Linda!

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I have to say that while some of the uniform changes over the years have been acceptable, the switch to a cloth slide from the metal one was a most unfortunate move regardless of the reasons for doing so.

Cost saving is one (admirable) thing, but there are many who work hard at Pathfindering. Going cloth has, since the first time I saw one, smacked of 'cheap' and 'compromise'. Will continue to treat the metal slides like gold.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 5:11 am 
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I also think that the metal slides look better. The only problem I can find with them is that they are hard to keep on your scarf. Oh well, that could be fixed with a little duct tape. :smt081

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:47 am 
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Ah, what held the world together BD (before duct tape)?? 8)
Of course, I think my metal slide has slidden off about twice in the 12 or so years I've been wearing it, and this without 'modification'...

You should see how many of the cloth ones we pick up off the ground or have to replace in a given year now. They're so insubstantial that many of the kids don't even notice when they come off. Not so with metal. <clang>:oops:
That, and the cost of replacement after the fact doesn't have the desired impact.

But they're gone now, so what can you do?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 2:08 pm 
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Your talking about the AY slides, I had just assumed they were still available as the slides we use have the Pathfinder emblem on them. We need Lonny to answer this one I think.


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