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Best of hopes for your effort.

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Our club went camping in Central Oregon over the Memorial Day weekend this past year. We're a newer club and we don't have a homogeneous tent selection yet, so reading what works for other clubs is very useful. We all took personal tents; the one I shared was about 8X8 and 6.5 ft tall with huge screen sides. Usually this is fine because there is no condensation with such a high roof, but in the high desert it was too cold. Opposite us were a family of two with their infant, in a smaller 4 man dome tent, and they were warmer than us, but they were also soaking with condensation. Nothing dried in their tent all weekend. None of us got much sleep.
The tent that seems the most practical for our club and the places we camp is the one with the two "bags" that are built into the front sides of the tent. When our club raises enough money for tents for the club, I'll see if we can get these. Thanks for sharing the info.

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One reason that there was condensate in the tents may have been that it was zipped up too tight. You should always leave a couple of inches unzipped at the top of the tent door to let the moisture out. I put together some information for my club as a guide to help them know how to purchase tents. There are also a couple of links to other helps.

http://pathfindersrus.com/tents.htm

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My club has Cabela's Alaskan Guide tents. (http://www.cabelas.com/hprod-1/0006263.shtml) At least four other clubs in my conference also have them.

They are extremely sturdy and big. We have the 8 person model. Extremely convenient for big units, the tent also comes in a 6 person. They are expensive but well worth the investment. They will weather many years and rambunctious kids.

These tents have weathered many campouts. Winter snow, and also around 50+ mph wind. They will not let a drop of rain in so they are perfect for those campouts with rain the whole weekend.

As far as downsides: Very few. They are not very difficult to set up. But require some knowledge. As long as counselors know how they go up it works out.

Going to the website will answer many more questions. They are very detailed in explaining the tent. Cabelas backs up their products much like REI or other high quality stores. You can read about there policies online also.

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Sometimes what our club does when we have new tents and no one's sure how to set them up is take the club meeting right before the campout and have each unit set up their tent and take it back down. That way the kids also have an idea of how to set it up and don't have to completely rely on the counselor being around to ask.

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Sometimes what our club does when we have new tents and no one's sure how to set them up is take the club meeting right before the campout and have each unit set up their tent and take it back down. That way the kids also have an idea of how to set it up and don't have to completely rely on the counselor being around to ask.


yes, it is one of the most annoying things in the world when you have to show people how to set them up year after year... I think that kids should know how to set up the tent after their first couple of campouts of their friend year!!!

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I think that kids should know how to set up the tent after their first couple of campouts of their friend year!!!

That's a Camping Skills I requirement.

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My thoughts on tents can be split into two categories: Backpacking & Other camping.

I have seen several good backpacking tents. I personally own a Kelty Flight. The most durable tent that I have seen in this category is one made by North Face (I think). I cannot tell you much more than that though.

As for other camping. Take your pick. I can't really say that I dwell too much in this category. I will say that Ten Peaks makes a really good dome tent. (Personally tested when I was younger)

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Yes, it is good to seperate backpacking and regular camping in two catagories. Although, i have heard of one pathfinder taking the stakes, another the poles, another the rainfly, and another the tent part. But, i think having backpacking tents work best. You can get some that arn't that expensive.

As far as camping, I have found like I said earlier that many clubs in my conference have the Cabella Alaskan Guide. It is a great dome tent, very sturdy and big enough to fit a big unit.

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I've been toying with the idea of making my own backpacking tent. The plan is to buy some replacement poles from Coleman (I just did that, but it was actually to replace some missing poles, not for this project), and then use the otherwise useless (to us) interior partition walls that we have gazillions of lying around. Also, I plan to cut up a tarp for the floor, and find some mesh for the ceiling. I'll also need zippers, stakes, thread, and maybe some grommets. Oh - and a design, but I plan to come up with one of those on my own.

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I have a bivy sack that I have made out of tyvek. It just covers my sleeping bag so there is no room for gear, but it is very warm and waterproof. I usually just sleep in my bivy out under the stars!

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I have thought of making a bivy, and I just found som tyvek, so rider, you need to show me how to make that!

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How much tyvek do you have? it takes quite a bit sometimes

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its left over from when we built our house, so I think that it is a sugnifcant amount. I have also heard in my online readings that it makes less noise if you run it through the washing machine several times... any truth to that or do you know?

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Sure does... throw some tennis balls in and wash it and dry it a few times... takes the crinkle out.

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sweet, I need to make one! I love my tent, but sleeping under the stars can be fun!

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Thats interesting! The thing I don't like about regular bivi sacks, is that they are waterproof, but not breathable at all. You have to zip them totally up to stay dry in a rainstorm downpour. Making it not breathable. At least thats what I have heard. Has anyone made a shelter with tyvek or some lightweight material that can be strung up in between two trees? If it is large enough this can be a good shelter.

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That would work well... I usually take a 10 x 10 tarp with me when I go camping, that way I can either lay on it, or under it depending on the weather. Tarps are very versatile... you can make a shelter, a latrine, a shower... all sorts of stuff... and they are LIGHT!!!

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Mitch wrote:
Thats interesting! The thing I don't like about regular bivi sacks, is that they are waterproof, but not breathable at all. You have to zip them totally up to stay dry in a rainstorm downpour. Making it not breathable. At least thats what I have heard. Has anyone made a shelter with tyvek or some lightweight material that can be strung up in between two trees? If it is large enough this can be a good shelter.


Mitch. I have seen a few bivi sacks that are now both breathable and waterproof. Here are links to some breathable and waterproof bivi sacks.
campmor.com

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campmore.com

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our group just got HUGE new tents they are awsome :smt023

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I have been experimenting with tyvek! It is true that washing it and drying it with tennis balls make it quieter. Do not wash it or dry it with high heat. If you like DIY jobs, this is a great idea. A roll of Tyvek homewrap costs $135 dollars. It is 9' by 150'. Split the roll and the price with someone else, and you have made a great deal! Tyvek makes great custom-fit footprints (ground tarps).
www.homedepot.com (shortened link)

On another note, I am getting a parachute nylon hammock for Christmas! This is another great bedding opportunity! I just need to find a good way to deal with cold weather.
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/store ... d=12500226


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I'm trying to find an inexpensive 4 season tent. I'm not having much luck though.

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Well this is a 3.5 season tent, but unless you are planning on moving, this should do you just fine! I have the '05 version and love it dearly! :smt055

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I have a 3.5 backpacking already, but may need a 4 season for a climb up Mt. Hood. :D

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Ohhh... Your one of them... :smt104


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